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  • ABUSIVE ASPERGER HUSBAND: WHY SHOULD I KEEP TRYING?

    YOU SHOULDN’T

    (For real… consider this)

     

    I want to give a fair disclosure to every neurotypical wife reading this bog and everything I write in support of an Aspie-NT marriage:

     

    YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO BE VERBALLY OR EMOTIONALLY ABUSED AND IT IS PERFECTLY OK AND HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED YOU LEAVE IF HE DOES NOT ACCEPT THIS!

     

    It should not come as a surprise that I want to address the topic of abuse in an Aspie-NT marriage if you have read any of my initial posts.  There are many married men with Asperger’s syndrome who are predominantly soft spoken, gentle, and more submissive than the “common” depiction of an Aspie husband found online. These men tend to be less apt to marry and/or end up in a high-conflict marriage to an NT-e so they rarely get acknowledged.  The majority of Aspie husbands out there have difficulty regulating their emotions and a large percentage of them utilize anger predominantly as a means to cope with interpersonal communication they find challenging (See: WHY IS HE SO ANGRY?). Of these “angry” men, many of them cross the line from inappropriate anger to verbal and/or emotional abuse.  

    This post is not about the common defensive mechanism of anger, it is about the cross-over into truly inexcusable and intolerable words and actions that need to be immediately addressed before an NT wife can even broach the topic of anger in general. It is necessary to cover this horrible and all-too-common step into damning behavior because we are not dealing with one fight in our marriage that spiraled out of control and got ugly, we are dealing with chronic misunderstandings that can make fighting and destructive behaviors the norm which becomes an incredibly dangerous place for both the Aspie and NT to exist in. 

    Some behaviors that I consider worthy of tolerating while you work on a new level of understanding one another, and a new method of communicating are listed under “emotionally abusive” behaviors.  These include things like, withholding, gaslighting, and stonewalling/ignoring.  While these actions hurt both parties (on an emotional level) they are actually necessary as your Aspie husband works through his defensive coping mechanisms and are going to have to be understood and patiently worked “tolerated” for a little while.  You cannot change all poor-coping behaviors before a person comprehends why they developed them.  You may need to let down your feelings of personal attack as you work on changing and fixing communication between you both.  With that being said… there are others… that are simply unacceptable for ANY REASON.

    No doubt there has been a torrential flood of cruelty hurled at you for a very long time.  No doubt there has been incredibly unfair roles in the marriage whereby you felt like a mother to a defiant and nasty teenager who did not appreciate you.  No doubt you have tried damn-near everything in your human capacity to be good to your husband, kind to your husband, understanding, empathetic, loving, selfless, supportive, and incredibly patient.  No doubt all of your effort fell on deaf ears and what you received in return was painful, indifferent apathy.  No doubt you have had things thrown at you, disgusting and unforgivable words screamed at you, gone days or weeks without being acknowledged, or maybe even spit on (as I have been), or physically assaulted.

    There are a million and one reasons to leave this man who has treated you in a way that no one deserves to be treated, especially by their husband.

    There is only ONE reason to stay (and sorry, love is not enough).  That is if he is willing to agree to NEVER again do the inexcusable and disgusting abusive behaviors I will outline below.

    It is NOT ONLY “ok” to say you have had enough and want to leave…

    It’s perfectly understandable and you do not deserve to feel guilty for choosing that option.

    While I am an advocate for changing this awful NT-Aspie dynamic, I will NEVER suggest you stay with a man who is not interested in learning about himself, how to treat you the way you deserve, or who thwarts all of your efforts and justifies his unacceptable behavior.

    Just because a man has Asperger’s syndrome and has suffered a tremendous amount of painful injustice throughout his life that caused him to become a defensive and hostile-appearing person…

    Does NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT justify him calling you disgusting names, being physically aggressive, or treating you like a doormat.

     

    His Asperger’s syndrome does not preclude him from knowing WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG when it comes to behaving in a humane and decent way toward his spouse and no one should ever make excuses for him when he does that.

     

    ASPERGER’S SYNDROME DOES NOT EXCUSE ABUSE AND ASPERGER’S SYNDROME DOES NOT CAUSE A MAN TO BE ABUSIVE!

     

     

    So PLEASE… while you read my posts and may come to an understanding about how and why he behaves the way he does… please keep in the back of your mind that it DOES NOT EXCUSE ABUSE IN ANY WAY.

    I NEED YOU TO PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD AND ACCEPT IT IN YOUR MIND, HEART AND SOUL….

     

    THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BEING ABUSIVE

     

    If your husband chooses to respond to you by saying you are the one being abusive and he is simply “reacting” to you… then you need to make it clear to him that this justification will no longer be accepted by you.

    While you are searching for help to better your marriage and hold out hope that things can get better… and they can… (and I commend you for having the strength and love to still be searching for this outcome) …  I HIGHLY suggest you create a back-up plan to begin a life without your husband if he refuses to stop name calling and/or throwing violent or aggressive temper tantrums.

    I HIGHLY suggest you WALK OUT THE DOOR and leave him to fend for himself if he cannot accept that his behavior WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED.

    Staying with a man who continues to treat you in an abusive manner IS telling him that his behavior is acceptable.  Hard pill to swallow, but it is high-time you choke it down.

    You have already proven (beyond a shadow of any doubt) that you are an incredibly strong and resilient woman who is capable of withstanding more challenge and emotional pain then most people could wrap their head around.  If you do not believe this, if you have convinced yourself you are weak (and that is why you have remained in an unhappy and abusive relationship) I am going to tell you to get a grip on reality (sorry… I know that sounds like something he might say to you!).  I am going to tell you the same thing military leaders repeat to their sailors and soldiers when they are claiming to be incapable of finding the inner strength to continue on in a terrifying direction…

    SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!

     

    You are strong… you are stronger than most could ever fathom.  You are a good person; you are a selfless person who has sacrificed your own mental health to love someone that you knew in your heart was worthy of a love no one else understood.  You are amazing and you need to stop making excuses for why you just “might deserve” the abusive ways your husband has treated you.  While I can easily explain all of the misunderstandings and unconscious and unintentional underlying reasons for your husband’s behaviors over the years… I CAN NOT and I WILL NOT attempt to give an excuse for the unquestionably abusive words and actions he has directed at you.

    Perhaps he is not entirely aware of what constitutes as abuse… perhaps he never had malicious intent… perhaps he has the emotional maturity of a child and is greatly challenged at controlling his outbursts…. perhaps he has felt attacked by you and believed his nastiness was an equal and warranted response to the ways he felt he was being “abused” by you… perhaps there are a million reasons to explain why he came to a place that he felt his behavior was acceptable and excusable…  but I assure you…. the #1 reason he has come to THAT place is because you have remained with him despite him treating you in a horrifically unacceptable way!  

    Many of our Aspie husbands were verbally abusive toward their mothers (or sisters) growing up… and these women still loved them and did not abandon them.  This has created a false sense of security that you are the only other woman (outside of their Mother) who will continue loving him and not abandon him regardless of how far he pushes his outbursts.  

    It is time he learns otherwise and you… yes, you buttercup… need to be the one to tell him that it STOPS TODAY or he is going to learn the hard way that not every woman who has dedicated their love to him is going to do so unconditionally.

    Unconditional love in a marriage is just a stupid, stupid word.  Unconditional love should be reserved only for the love a parent has for their child…. It should not ever be used in a marriage.  It sets a terrible stage for women (especially NT-e women) to believe they should remain married despite all else.  NT-e women often love their Aspie husband with the same love they have for their children… unconditional.  This needs to stop.  You are tired of feeling like his mother, SO STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE!  Start putting CONDITIONS on how far your love is willing to go.  Let him know that: 

    IT STOPS AT ABUSE!

     

    Your Aspie husband IS NOT STUPID.  Your Aspie husband KNOWS when he has said or done something that would be inexcusable in any relationship or marriage.  I encourage you… I beg of you to start accepting who you are, start putting conditions on the love you are willing to give, and start discovering the strength you already have proven time and time again that you possess… and be willing to leave him if he does not stop abusing you.

    Obviously if you call your husband abusive… you can anticipate an incredible amount of verbal abuse directed at you in response.  Fine.  Don’t use that word.  Call it “INTOLERABLE BEHAVIOR”.

    Let him know you are learning about why he behaves the way he does, and why you behave the way you do. Let him know you are willing and wanting to make your marriage work and do whatever it takes to create a happy and healthy marriage. Tell him you are committed to changing the ways you have behaved as well that have caused difficulties and you expect him to be willing to do the same for you.  Tell him you love him…

    And then make it CLEAR…. MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR…

    THAT THE INTOLERABLE BEHAVIOR STOPS IMMEDIATELY…

    TO-DAY…

    OR YOUR MARRIAGE IS OVER AND YOU ARE LEAVING HIM.

     

    Give him a chance to absorb what you have said to him.  Tell him you absolutely REQUIRE him to acknowledge your words and the behaviors you deem unacceptable or you will have to assume he is not agreeable to them and you will then follow through with your promise to walk away.

     

    HOW DO YOU DO THIS?

    First, take time to read about what I am saying in this post and the others. Take time for yourself to identify what is intolerable, what is a part of his Asperger’s syndrome defenses (that can be corrected), and then take time to firmly establish an alternative to remaining in your marriage.  Outline a plan to leave, even if that plan involves the same steps a “battered wife” needs to take to leave her husband.  Accept that if he is not willing to stop these intolerable behaviors… that you ARE a battered wife. 

    You do not have to have bruises on your face or broken bones to be battered and any search of emotional/verbal abuse will 100% agree that the injuries you cannot see… the ones that are violently destroying you from the inside out… they are far more damaging than the ones you can see.  So realize, if your husband refuses to stop acting that way… it is time to call a spade a spade (I use this term without the racist connotation it originally carried).  It truly took my husband’s sister to finally convince me that there is NO excuse ever rational enough to justify a man verbally or physically abusing a woman… please don’t wait for someone else to convince you of this.  

    If your husband consciously and knowingly opts to disregard what you define as abuse (see below), then he is consciously and knowingly choosing to abuse you.  So if you haven’t the financial means to begin again… start researching what “battered women” have as options and be willing to implement those options to get the fuck out of your marriage.

    Once you have solidified enough information about why your husband “is” the way he is… the things both of you have done to create a terribly awful dynamic (even if completely unintentional); decide if you want to keep working through it.  Decide if you want to try one more time to make your marriage happy based off of the insight I have given in this blog.  Decide that you are ready and willing to put forth this effort, and decide that you will ONLY do so if your husband is agreeable to stop his abusive behavior (by way of calling it “intolerable behavior”).  Decide that if he is not, you will leave.

    And then I urge you… I beg of you…

    Tell him directly and clearly (in a letter, email, text, or face to face) that the intolerable behavior (abuse) stops today.  Make sure you have clearly identified everything that falls under the category of intolerable behavior and make sure it is written down in a place he can reflect on (if willing to) so there are no “grey areas” and there are no excuses to say “Oh, well I didn’t know you considered that intolerable behavior, so it doesn’t count.”  Identify exactly what you will NO LONGER accept and make sure you have been clear and direct enough that he cannot sway you into “exceptions” because he did not realize that his words or actions were “on the list.”

     

    Side note:  Give him the option to create his own list of behaviors he finds intolerable on your behalf and be willing to consider and agree to those equally.

     

     

    Whether he acknowledges what you have said to him or not… tell him that those behaviors stop TODAY and make it clear to him that if they continue… even once… YOU WILL leave your marriage… and there will be no discussing it at that point.

    I mean it when I say, if he does it again… EVEN ONCE…. LEAVE HIS ASS!  Walk out that door with your head held high.  You have every right to hold your head up high if the man you love and have sacrificed your physical and mental health for REFUSES to treat you with the BARE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF RESPECT EVERY HUMAN DESERVES.

     

    Asperger’s syndrome is NOT an excuse for cruelty.

    Asperger’s syndrome does not make a man blind or incapable of comprehending what behaviors are abusive.

    Asperger’s syndrome does not create a man too blind to comprehend right from wrong.

    Do not allow Asperger’s syndrome to excuse THOSE behaviors ever again… it gives the Aspies who are not abusive a very unfair image they do not deserve.

     

     

    Here are my suggestions for “intolerable behavior” to be clearly listed (but I suggest you tailor them to your husband’s repetitive actions so there is nothing left unsaid).  Do not put emotions in your list.  Make the list direct and clear without any “side information, explanation, or specific examples of this behavior in the past.”

    1. NAME CALLING (Bitch, CU*T, stupid, insane, useless, dumb, piece of shit, etc.)
    2. THROWING THINGS (Breaking dishes, throwing items, dumping drinks or anything else on you, etc.)
    3. PHYSICAL AGGRESSIVENESS (Pushing, grabbing, hitting, kicking, spitting, shoving, cornering you, getting in your face or raising a hand or fist at you, etc.)
    4. THREATENING YOU (I will sabotage your life, career, family, etc. I will take the children, the car, the home, the money, etc. I will make you pay. I will hurt, kill, destroy you, etc.)
    5. INDIRECT ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR (slamming things around, hiding or breaking things that belong to you, stealing, lying, sabotaging shared or personal items – Like breaking the car so you cannot drive, your computer or electronic devices, etc.)

     

    It is not now (nor was it ever) alright to behave that way. It is not alright for you to do it in response to him, and it is not alright for him to do it (in response to you). If you do not firmly establish this boundary and do it fast… no amount of effort you EVER put into saving your marriage will matter because the moment one of these abusive behaviors is repeated, it will undo every bit of progress you made and send you right back to the misery and broken soul you felt throughout your marriage.  Removing these behaviors is a NON-NEGOTIABLE requirement and you need to stand behind your words after you have made them undeniably clear to him.

     

    YOU ARE A REMARKABLE WOMAN & HE IS NOT A BAD MAN

    I commend you for everything you have done to get to the point that you are still motivated and wanting to save your marriage… I know it has been hellish in many ways (for both of you).

    I do not think your Aspie husband is evil for the things he has said any more than I think you are for the things you have said.  There is always a chance for hope (regardless of what you read) because your husband is not a psychopath.  Your husband does not do these things with the intention of manipulating you or tearing apart your psyche.  Your husband does these things because he has incredibly poor coping skills (that can be corrected) and he has learned that the more aggressive he is, the more likely he is to make a confusing and emotionally intolerable situation immediately stop.  I will give the benefit of doubt to your husband that he is naive to some of the specific things you find abusive, but I will assure you, he still knows every time he has gone “too far” or said something damaging and cruel.  You can forgive all of those things and move forward because they were never directed at you for the same reasons a psychopath would do them to you… but once you clearly outline that you are never again going to tolerate them… you can no longer forgive him or excuse them as an “isolated incident.”

     

    BUT… IT’S NOT THAT EASY TO LEAVE

    Yeah, I know.  I have heard this a million times.  I hate to tell you this, but it is an excuse.  I am not suggesting it will be easy, I am not suggesting you are going to walk away without regret or reconsider your choice.  I am not suggesting you are going to leave him and not walk into an entirely different world of struggle.  I am suggesting it is an excuse still.  Fear of the unknown is terrifying.  But any time you find a “reason” to stay with a man who knowingly and purposely abuses you (and he will be doing it purposely after you lay it out for him); it is still an excuse.  Regardless of the excuse you make to stay and tolerate abusive behavior; he’s the father of your children, he is the financial provider, he will fall apart without you…

    There is NEVER an excuse good enough to accept being abused. NEVER. You existed before him, and you are clearly a very strong woman and will make it without him.  He existed before you, and he will make it without you. Your children do not deserve to live with a mother who is broken and miserable and they certainly will not benefit from watching their mother willingly accept being abused.

     

     

    LEAVING DOES NOT ALWAYS EQUAL THE END

    This may sound weird, but just because you leave him… does not mean the end of your marriage.  Your husband’s behaviors have been created over many years.  You have put up with them and remained with him throughout it all.  There is a very good chance defining the “intolerable” behaviors will fall on deaf ears and he will knowingly test you or do it again.  This is an immature response, perhaps an act of defiance, perhaps a test to see if you will really do it.

     

    DO IT!

     

    It may take you finally standing behind your words to get him to wake up and realize he needs to take accountability for himself and be the man you deserve (that I believe most Aspie husbands WANT to be).  Perhaps it will take leaving him for him to get it through his mind that he can no longer treat you that way.  Perhaps you will have to leave him to have a chance at EVER making it better.

    The thing is… if you outline the abusive behavior you will no longer tolerate… and you remain with him after he violates this… you can count on him never changing and you better believe he will have zero respect for you.  If you make it clear that he cannot ever abuse you again after you define what you consider abuse, you will never feel good about yourself if you willingly allow it to continue.

     

    YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO WALK OUT THE DOOR OR KICK HIM OUT OF THE HOUSE AND STAND BY YOUR ACTIONS.

     

    If you believe he warrants another chance (and I am not against this) make damn sure there is a significant enough amount of time in between you allowing him back into your life before you do.  Make sure you have given YOURSELF enough time to learn who you are, what you want, and whether or not you actually want to live a life with or without him in the future (this process could take months for you to reach a rational choice).  Make sure you are hearing from a man who TRULY gets it.  Make sure you are hearing from a man who is taking personal accountability for his actions and who is truly understanding of the gravity of his behavior (words and actions) before you EVER consider letting him back into your life.  Make sure you give time to be with one another (without living together) again before you allow him back in that door, or you return.

    If a separation is not enough for him to willingly and wantonly abolish those cruel behaviors, you need to permanently walk out on your marriage.

    You are not stupid.  You wouldn’t be on this website if you believe you deserve to be treated without respect or if you believe you deserve to have your sense of self violated. You know you are something, so stop accepting someone who treats you like nothing.  You are here because you know you do not deserve this. If you have tried everything… even a separation… and he continues to abuse you… I PROMISE YOU… that abuse is going to escalate.  I promise you that someday, that abuse is going to kill you.  Your death may be a slow and torturous one by way of your immune system shutting down, your heart developing dysfunction, or your mental health breaking you down to a non-functioning woman, but one way or another, it absolutely will… without question… equate to a premature and agonizing death.  This is coming from a healthcare professional who absolutely comprehends how powerful our brains are.  This is coming from someone who knows that if you do not protect your emotional sense of self, your body will begin to manifest diseases and disorders in a desperate attempt to get you to wake the fuck up and start paying attention to your emotional well-being! 

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT SACRIFICING YOUR FEELINGS OF HAPPINESS FOR YOUR HUSBAND…. THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE YOUR LIFE FOR HIM! 

    If you stay with your Aspie husband despite his refusal to stop abusing you, you are agreeing to lay down your own life to appease his inflexible and intolerable cruelty. If you think for one second that staying with a man who refuses to stop abusing you is best for your children… if you think leaving him would be selfish and cause great harm to your children… if you have convinced yourself that you are sacrificing yourself, not for him, but for the sake of your children… I implore you to wake up fast… KILLING YOURSELF IS CRUEL TO YOUR CHILDREN! 

    Not all Aspie husbands display defensive anger on a recurrent basis and of the ones who do, not all of them rise to the level of verbal and/or emotional abuse.  Anger (in and of itself) is not necessarily abusive (challenging to deal with, but not abusive).  Most of the time, a very angry, defensive, or hostile Aspie husband will cross over into the grey area of verbal and emotional abuse.  

    As you read my website, you will find that I am very defensive of Aspie husbands and I am incredibly defensive of the fact that your marriage can get better and that an Aspie-NT marriage CAN be happy and successful.  I do not “excuse” any of the poor behaviors your husband has any more than I excuse the poor behaviors you have had.  I have found explanations, and I have found causes for them.  I have found hope, I have seen success, and I have found a reason to fight for our marriages.  I do not believe your husband is a bad man, I believe he is a good man.  I believe you are a good woman. 

    I believe your life can get better. In order to begin implementing the advice I have to give, in order to begin understanding how you came to both be so miserable in your marriage, and in order for you to begin truly working hard on change… you must first establish the behaviors that will prevent ANY of that from ever being realized. You have to take time for yourself and reflect on the words and behaviors that are abusive to your emotional, spiritual, and physical well-being.  You have to write them down.  You have to truly believe that you no longer deserve to be treated that way.  You have to stop making excuses, for him and yourself.  You have to establish and be willing to follow through on a new life that does not include your husband.  You have to share your clear and direct “intolerable and unacceptable” list with your husband, and then you have to be willing to stand by your word and follow through.

    Take the time to establish what you deserve.  Take the time to read what I have written.  Take the time to identify the non-negotiable things that are killing your spirit and the magnificent woman you are… and write them down. Share them with your husband when you are ready.  Give him time to process your words, and then make a firm and final choice to do the MOST IMPORTANT THING you can do to save your marriage if he continues to be abusive…

    BE WILLING TO WALK AWAY FROM IT.

     

     

     

    IT IS NOT ALRIGHT TO BE ABUSED BY THE PERSON YOU LOVE… FOR ANY REASON… EVER.

    *****If you are being physically abused, I don’t even recommend giving him a second chance.  If you are being physically abused and you fear for your personal safety, I also DO NOT recommend you challenge him or waste your energy with a list.  If you are being physically abused, I recommend you seek immediate help and you plan a permanent escape that is safe.  I also recommend you take a second glance at his Asperger-diagnosis.  It is not impossible for an Aspie to also become violent but in cases like this… you are dealing with a comorbid mental health diagnosis and his AS is not responsible for the disturbing personality disorder that affords him the delusional belief he can physically assault another human being.  Get away from a man like this and get away from them in a way that provides you with a safe escape.

     

     

     


  • ASPERGER/NT MARRIAGE ADVICE: WHERE DO I GO FOR HOPE?

    Step #1:  Begin with this…

    Let’s first identify the “help” you have already stumbled upon

    I have mentioned that I have “Found the end of the internet” in search of anything that could help my marriage. This is a very heavy claim to put out to the world, but it is exactly how I have felt after years of searching and coming up empty in regard to useful advice on how to better my relationship with my Aspie husband. There are plenty of places to go to when a person types in, “Asperger Marriage.” You will find tons of websites dedicated to one side or the other, and within those pages you will read hundreds of comments about a relationship in turmoil or someone from the opposite neuro-side vehemently combating the words the previous commenter had to say. There is a lot of resentment, frustration, and anger within the context of every blog or article post that leans heavily on one side or the other.

    Then there are the articles published by individuals who have a “title” behind their name lending assumed credibility to the advice they have to dole out. I have yet to discover one of those articles containing anything but vague oversimplifications in lieu of useful guidance on how to make an Aspie/NT marriage happy. The majority of the time they are giving a broad overview to entice the reader to purchase their book or subscribe to their page in order to generate a financial profit while giving nothing substantial in return. I have been a sucker for these self-proclaimed experts and I have put my credit card information in to more of these websites than I care to admit to. I don’t actually know if I am embarrassed to say that, or if there is a part of me that takes pride in knowing I have truly sought out every web-based offering I could uncover. Regardless of how I now feel about the wasted money I have pumped into the pockets of undeserving “professionals” out there, I feel as though it has afforded me the right to tell you not to waste your own money.  I can now tell you for certain that the claim that you will find answers after providing a small amount of currency, are groundless. On the other end of the payment screen, you will receive no more than you had before you hit submit and you will regretfully discover you wasted more money on answers that none of these people have.

    It is my personal belief that none of them have the answers because none of them actually know what it is like to exist in an NT/Aspie relationship and are therefore guessing and attempting to implement what their cherished professional literature has taught them. Remember that the professional literature in existence on Asperger’s Syndrome is scant, and there are no significant studies yielding successful/proven therapy for Asperger/NT relationships that anyone can passionately stand behind. You have the same access to the tools they utilize to dish out advice if you take the time to look for them, so it is with my strong urging that I implore you to cease your searches for specialized guidance within the context of online articles.

     

    The most important thing you can do for your relationship is problem-solve for yourself

     

    There will never exist a single person who can provide you with the right advice on how to remedy your own interpersonal difficulties within your marriage other than you and your spouse working together. So then the next question is, “How do I get us to work together when he is so disinterested in doing so?”

    The answer to this is to utilize a step-by-step process. You must first truly educate yourself on your husband and the way his mind works (yes, I agree with THAT “expert” advice). Your husband is not going to do this, and he is not going to suddenly stand up and proclaim that he is incredibly vested in learning all about you and the way your mind works. Keep wishing, it isn’t going to happen. If your husband does do this you are in a very, very rare minority and you are the envy of every other NT/Aspie couple out there.

    If you are in the majority and just starting out, I highly recommend beginning with the book The Complete Guide to Asperger’s Syndrome by Tony Attwood.

    This book is and always will be the launching point to understanding your husband and giving you the foundation you will need to begin learning how to problem solve for yourself. While I mentioned that you do not necessarily need to seek expert advice to help your marriage, I would be remiss if I did not tell you that there is zero chance you are going to figure it out on your own if you do not educate yourself first on what Asperger’s Syndrome actually means and how it affects your husband’s daily functioning. It is incredibly important to start at the beginning of his life and comprehend how a child with Aspergers comes to develop the negative behavior patterns that exist as an adult. In this book you will be taken back to the start, and you may even find yourself developing a sobering sense of sadness when you imagine what it must have been like to grow up the way he did, never knowing WHY he was so “different.” This level of empathy is going to help you on your journey to finding the answers you seek, I promise.

    Even if you have been married years and have read all about your Aspie husband, if you have not read THAT book… pick it up. You can go through this link (The Complete Guide to Asperger’s Syndrome), you can go to the bookstore, you can ask other NT’s to share it with you… however you get it in your hands, you really SHOULD read it. If your husband is not diagnosed, or if you suspect he has Aspergers but are not yet certain, this book will help you solidify and confirm your own suspicions. I recommend you also grab a highlighter if you have the paper version because this is fun (ok, not really fun, but definitely enlightening). As you read, highlight the things that sound familiar or resonate with you in regard to your husband, self, or relationship. I tell you to do this because there is an incredible likelihood that by the time you finish the last sentence, you will realize that you have highlighted far more words than not. You can look at that incredible amount of bold color and realize you have your confirmation and you no longer need to question what you already know in your heart to be true.

    Ok, so you have read the book and it is bright pink, or yellow, or whatever color you chose. Now what?

    The next thing I suggest is going to the RIGHT webpage for the hard cold blunt reality check you need to determine exactly what you are up against. The book will make you have a ton of emotions and the humanizing of your husband will serve as your base when you go on to the crude truth that frightens you and makes you cry yourself to sleep at night.

    Of the many options before you to go to, there is one website that I have always found my way back to because of its genuine accuracy called The Neurotypical Site. I have enjoyed this because there is no ambiguity about who this website was intended for, and there are no hateful words within it (outside of some comments by readers). It was created for an NT partner (predominantly female/wife) who is married to an Asperger partner (predominantly male/husband) and it is a good place to go to after developing a fact-based understanding of your Aspie husband.

    I cannot say that The Neurotypical Site is an overly positive or motivating website because it is not filled to the brim with happy stories and inspiring words to keep the NT in their relationship and fill them with hope. It is quite the opposite of a place to inspire hope in you, it is more of a place to find like-minded people who will offer the incredibly important sense that YOU ARE NOT ALONE. When you are married or in a long-term relationship with an Aspie, you are going to feel like you are alone A LOT, and this sense of isolation can and does create an NT who begins to aspergate themselves without realizing it (See: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE ASPERGATED).  <—- this post is still pending (I am working on it diligently, I promise)

    No, this website will not make you feel happy, and it is not meant to. It is not meant to offer the same insensitive advice that professionals dish out telling the NT partner to adapt and adjust their thinking patterns and behaviors to their Aspie mate in order to create a harmonious home. That is the worst thing you can do if you want to make your marriage successful and mutually beneficial to both parties. The author/s of the website tell it like it is, straight up, without mincing words. They are not nasty or cruel in their depiction of what an Aspie/NT marriage or relationship is like, they are just honest and unapologetic and what they say is both accurate and comforting to the NT woman who stumbles upon their words.

    With all of that being said, I can appreciate how someone with Asperger’s Syndrome would read the pages within this website and think that it is both unfair and incorrect. I can certainly see why they would think it spreads hate-filled words to the world about their disorder. This other side, comprised of individuals with Aspergers are not wrong to perceive it this way. From their perspective, the things said within this website are inaccurate and bigoted because they are unable to see how their actions or words are received on your end. Without the natural use of Theory of Mind, their intentions are all they know to be real. If an Aspie had no intent to cause you harm in their words or actions, there is no chance they are going to believe you when you tell them they did.

    As you navigate through this website I would like to highlight two very important pages that I have copied and gone back to many times over the years. I would love to copy and paste these into my post but I will refrain from doing so without permission of the author/s. I will discuss the content to some degree because I think it is important for the NT spouse to go back to these often when you find yourself completely paralyzed by the compounding frustrations of your failed attempts at communicating.

    The first is The Bottom Line which lists the somber and upsetting truth of what you will or may already feel is your life and the role you currently play in your relationship. I completely agree with this list and I absolutely believe this WILL be your future if you are unable, unwilling, or unsure of how to alter this dynamic. It is important to read this because I want you to know you are not alone in how you feel, and while you may not want to readily admit that this is your current world, at some point you will come back to it and find yourself submitting and accepting it as reality. The only thing missing from the list is number 13, the author says that if there were a number 13 it would be to “Give it up before you get involved.” I disagree, I think it should say:

     

    This is going to be your Bottom Line unless you radically shift your perspective and think far outside the box that’s been set before you.

     

    The second page on The Neurotypical Site is a table called the Effects of Differing Neuro/Developmental Levels on Neurotypical/Autism Spectrum Adult Relationships. I cannot stress enough how imperative it will be for you to keep this table close by at all times if you want to REALLY begin to understand how your communication attempts go awry, you need to have this readily available to you. Each and every time you find yourself faltering in creating or maintaining a meaningful discussion with your husband, every time his words, actions, or lack thereof cause you grief… look at this table. Find yourself on the left and follow the row to the resulting feelings you are experiencing. This is going to give you a greater understanding of the cognitive processes at play on both ends directly AFTER a misunderstanding or negative reaction occurs. Having this tool is also going to be vital to you in immediately validating the resulting feelings you are experiencing.

    I will disclose that looking at this table and the The Bottom Line list at this point in my relationship with my husband, I no longer view those black and white words as concrete and unalterable.

    I have felt and agree with everything printed within these two pages, and I recommend them to you as your secondary launching point after reading Tony Attwood’s book. It was absolutely imperative for me to utilize both of these tools to get to the place I am at today. I cycled back and forth many times reading the book and that website and found myself falling down a rabbit hole of other damaging articles and blogs along the way (that served no purpose outside of created resentment and utter despair in my search for happiness). Eventually, I was able to re-ground myself. In the end, going back to the book, re-reading it in its entirety, and then keeping that list and table close by and continuously referencing it for nearly five months, I found the inspiration to begin shifting the dynamic that those two reference points suggested were my definitive future.

    I am not bullsh*ting you when I tell you that your life does NOT have to play out this way, it CAN be different. Your husband can learn to behave empathetically toward you, and although he will never see the world through the same eyes, you can help him see through yours and vice versa once all the defensive coping mechanisms that are keeping you separated get broken down.  This can happen.  There exists the potential for you to be more than a caretaker to your husband, and there exists the potential that your husband will begin to WANT to take care of you as well. I know, I am living it as I type these words.

    Start with those two recommendations and I will lead you on to Step #2

    If you really follow them, this is the very first and most important step you can take toward discovering and developing your own problem solving skills to better your marriage.

    I would not tell you this if I did not believe in my heart it was going to work.  I came back to Step #1 many times, and it was not until I actually did these two things and avoided all of the other options out there (to fix my relationship) that I began to see a pathway before me that had not previously existed.  

    If you have not already read this post, it is my STEP #2:

    See: WHAT ABOUT ASPERGER’S SYNDROME AND EMPATHY?

     

     

     


  • ASPERGER/NT MARRIAGE HELP: WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD SUPPORT GROUP?

    The question every Neurotypical spouse asks at some point

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    I am a super big fan of these guys

    Update:  

    I took this post offline for a while for three reasons:  1. I was pissed off.  2.  I questioned if it could truly benefit an NT wife living with an adult Aspie. 3. I did want to endorse spending money on anything about Asperger’s syndrome (in general) unless I could personally attest to the value of it.  So let me explain:

    I went to this forum religiously (for reasons explained below in the original post). I always knew when I posted a question to the members that I would receive some flak and responses filled with sheer ignorance about Asperger’s syndrome.  I always used those responses to inspire why I needed to begin sharing what “I” knew to be true. One day I opted to link my blog post: WHAT ABOUT ASPERGER’S SYNDROME AND EMPATHY? to see how the members would receive my opinions.  I fell asleep after posting it and awakened to a few personal emails that indicated my post had stirred up some hate-filled and bitter responses with ensuing arguments that got nasty (either toward me, or between forum members).  While the emails I received were ones telling me they enjoyed the post, or found it insightful, they also told me they thought it royally “sucked” the entire post had been removed by the forum administrators.  I had no idea that it had sparked all of this emotion, nor did I know it had been removed from the website at the time I read those emails.  I wish I could have stayed awake long enough to know exactly what the context was of all the negativity I had inadvertently instigated, but I never had the opportunity to read any of it because the forum administrators took that away from me.  

    On this particular website, we all write controversial things (as ASD, Autism, Asperger’s syndrome and talking about something as important and emotional as our children does frequently trigger intense feelings).  It is not abnormal for many posts to lead to snarky comments and utter rudeness toward members with opposing viewpoints.  If someone gets particularly nasty, the forum administrators will delete their comment, but not the whole post that fueled the emotion.  

    One of the reasons I kept going back was because the platform was so open, as I believed it was promoting honest discussions that need to occur about a topic so taboo and unknown in society.  This initial reason for being willing to pay to be a member of the group got me thinking.. there I was, advocating to my blog readers to consider this unexpected group (Aspie parents) to help them learn valuable lessons, perhaps they weren’t as “open” as I originally perceived? Despite not agreeing with the majority of information put out on it by the members themselves (not the authors), I was mature enough to look past that and find something beneficial from my membership.

    When I learned my entire post was removed, I felt rather betrayed by the very creators.  I felt that they had cherry-picked my insight and opinion as being “too controversial” to leave up, while having no urge to remove the countless morons out there blaming vaccines and other unproven or ridiculous media-hyped links to Autism Spectrum Disorders.  It was because of this selective censorship that I became angry and took down this blog post for almost four months.

    This pissed off feeling made me question whether or not the recommendation of other NT wives reading what these parents had to say would benefit them or cause them to feel more alienated and misunderstood.  It was because of this pissed off feeling that I decided I would not allow an endorsement that cost money to be made by me if there was any chance it could cause more harm than good.

    Ultimately… after much consideration (and re-reading the original post), I decided that I would open it back up for you to decide for yourselves if there is something to benefit from it. In the end, I still admit this is the only group membership that ever benefited me in any way (despite joining many others in the past).

    While I believe only one of the original founders of Asperger Experts is still involved in the website, I still have to say that it is worth checking out if you are interested in how current members of society who are actively raising Aspie sons (like your husband) are receiving, processing, and making sense of the information they have.  I think it will be beneficial to you to look inside the minds of these parents for many reasons but most of all, the creators do give an interesting glimpse into what it might have been like “in the mind” of your husband when he was younger.

     

    ORIGINAL POST:

    When a neurotypical wife begins their hunt for “like minds” to begin processing Asperger’s syndrome, they often consider joining forums to share their story and get advice.  More often then not, their search begins with reading tons of articles on the subject. When an NT spouse reads these articles, they may think, “Ok, this is good” but then when they look beneath it, realize that upwards of 90% of every response/comment is from an NT spouse who has (or is about to) give up on their marriage.

    What began as a hunt for help turns into a feeling of hopelessness as they come upon more stories of utter negativity and failure.

    I began looking into and following Asperger forums written by Aspies themselves (to avoid the hopeless NT pitfall). I had simply given up on the hostile and broken NT ones and had long-since abandoned the “professional insight” ones (since they never really gave me tangible advice I could utilize).  I thought perhaps going directly to the people who live in my husband’s fascinating world would yield better results.  I figured, if for nothing else, they could offer something the others could not.

    Unfortunately, despite still following many of these writers and loving what they have to say and how they express their difficulties, challenges, successes, and general perspectives… I still came up empty in finding practical means of helping my own marriage.  It was/is sometimes frustrating to read the words of Aspie’s and know that they do not understand what it is that they are doing “wrong” that causes so much angst from the NT community (so they ironically vent equally about NT’s and their cruel and un-empathetic behavior).  I think that it is important for an NT spouse to read what the Aspie bloggers have to write still, and I will link you to some of my favorite websites in future posts that you may also love.

    For purposes of something that might actually “help” you, this is what I opted to do at the end of my internet search for a good forum to join.  I wholeheartedly recommend to adult NT spouses married to a partner with Asperger’s Syndrome to do this:

    Consider finding a DIFFERENT group of people for advice

    I belong to a forum for parents of Asperger/Autism diagnosed children.  In all of my attempts to locate a group of positive people to provide support for my struggles, it was only this group that ever offered it.

    With this private group forum I go to (daily) being dedicated to parents who are desperate to provide a good life for their children (is there any motivation stronger than that?) I get to see people who will never offer advice to “leave” or abandon their children.  This provides me with a new perspective of what it is like to see people who are also met with failure and struggles every day, who continue to maintain an optimistic outlook and strive for “something else” each time one avenue proves unsuccessful.

    Since I hope I have sparked some interest in what group I am referring to exactly, I will let you in on my big secret. This group was founded by two young adult men, Danny and Hayden, who have Asperger’s Syndrome (they call themselves ASPERGER EXPERTS) and honestly… they are absolutely deserving of the title more than anyone else who uses their professional credentials to try to justify being deserving of such a term.

    In ALL of the things I have read and searched for over the past five years, these guys (barely into adulthood themselves) have managed to make more sense of my husband than any adult or professional EVER COULD.  They are phenomenal men who are doing a wonderful service for parents of children diagnosed with Aspergers.  They refer to their forum as an “Asperger & Autism Parent Support Network” but I think by their self-proclaimed title you may see that they are what I consider “straight-up-Aspies” and likely as deserving of the Autism Spectrum Disorder label as my husband (sarcasm).  <—- If you have read my other posts, you are likely aware that I am NOT a huge supporter of the umbrella term ASD (to put it mildly).

    The most incredible thing about these two Asperger Experts?  They are being paid fractions of what the “professionals” are making to spout off all of their brilliance in one useless therapy session!  I pay $14.99 per month to have access to better information and tools than any book I have purchased ever yielded (and I paid far more than that amount per month on wasted literature), so I recommend them to anyone who would like to find a “different” perspective who are also willing to spare some extra cash.

    What do I mean by a new or different perspective?

    The support groups intended to be positive for women married to Aspie men always end up being fueled with advice to get out as soon as possible and limitless stories of their Aspie’s negative behaviors and attributes.  They seemed to want to help one another initially (if you go back to the origins of the forums), but since every effort on their behalf ultimately fails… the only help they can offer in the end is to advise other women to stop wasting their lives and get divorced.

    That is why the perspective of parents who would never allow the thought of leaving their own beloved child is so important to a Neurotypical wife who really just wants help, not tips on running away quickly.

    It was in large, because of these parents that I first began adapting my attitude about my husband John.  I began to consider that maybe I should try to regard him with the same dedication I would give my daughter B, instead of always having one foot out the door.  Since abandoning my child would NEVER be an option to consider; I wondered how my mindset could change if I chose to delete that option for my marriage as well.  

    The only problem with this forum (for an NT wife seeking help in her marriage) and the wonderful insight from these two guys is that they fall short of having a true grasp of what it is like to navigate through a marriage like mine or John’s.  They are the small statistic who has figured out enough to potentially avoid the very dynamic we (and so many others) exist in, and thankfully they are reaching thousands of parents with their insight to help those children grow into successful happy adults like they are.

    Obviously another problem is that, THEY HAVE ASPERGER’S SYNDROME!  They are not going to be able to decipher what that “means” for the neurotypicals in their life and they do not attempt to make sense of that very often.  

    Their focus is on enlightening NTs about how the young Aspie mind receives and responds to the world around them.  They haven’t the insight to enlighten an Aspie to the NT side (obviously not something to hold them accountable to).

    Because of their inability to speak on behalf of an adult NT/Aspie relationship, even with the new found enlightenment they have given me, the path still hits a dead end for my marriage in a lot of ways.  It is one thing to begin to identify and correct coping behaviors and misunderstandings in a person’s childhood and adolescence… it is an entirely different ballgame when we are talking about 30+ years of negative behaviors and belief-systems that are near-impossible to penetrate.

    It is far easier for a parent to influence the behavior of their child than a spouse for their husband.  As an NT spouse, we do not hold the awesome ability to utilize the same consequences for behavior and/or positive reinforcement and rewards that most parents have at their disposal.  In fact, if we offer ultimatums to our adult Aspie husband, we can typically expect a terribly hostile and defensive defiance… which creates the very parent/child dynamic we are so desperate to extinguish in our adult partnership.

     

    Regardless of the inability to speak directly on the topic of an Asperger Marriage, the tools Danny and Hayden give are a phenomenal foundation in any Aspie/NT dynamic and the support group members themselves… priceless!  

    Fair warning:  The parents (mostly moms) in this forum do not mince words and they are unapologetic in their critiques or opinions (I actually find this helpful once I let go of my instinctive feeling of rejection when they disagree with me).  If you are someone who does not handle rejection from outsiders well, tread lightly before you post a strong opinion on here.  If these parents think (for even a split second) that your words are incorrect, biased, or painting a bad light on the children they love… they are like mama-bears protecting their cubs and go for blood.  

    On the flip side, there are no bigger advocates then these parents when it comes to finding answers and help (as misguided and misinformed as they often are).  It is not lost on me that these mothers can become a driving force to altering the current crash-course Asperger/Autism education is on (if they ever get the right information in their hands).  

    Since you will never find a group of people that rally behind one another for a positive cause (to better their children’s future) like these parents, I would be remiss if I did not share with you that this website/forum has helped me.  It is worthy of consideration if you are tired of listening to people who think giving up is the only viable option.